Top Productivity Techniques for Spiritual Business Owners

Melissa Amos [: 00:00:00

Good morning, Beth.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:00:02

Good morning, Mel. How are you doing?

Melissa Amos [: 00:00:04

I'm good. I'm good. I've realized something as a business owner, we have our strengths.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:00:13

Yes.

Melissa Amos [: 00:00:14

We also have the things that we don't want to do, that we have to do. And I was thinking this morning about all of the things that I have to do over the next couple of weeks. I've got a new course coming out. I've got a course that I'm running that's also a new one. And I'm creating my new framework on top of the Mastermind, my regular stuff, all the things.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:00:38

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:00:39

And I was like, okay, Melissa, got to do this stuff. And so I started to think back to all of my hacks, all of my life hacks, of how we do the things that we don't necessarily feel motivated or emotional, inspired, or enjoy doing. Yeah, I thought we could talk about that today.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:00:57

I think we should. I feel like I'm in a similar space to you. I've recently got a VA after so long. And I think the reason why I waited for so long is that in previous incarnations of Beth, like when I was managing business support programs, I was really blessed with amazing project assistants and people that just. Just got you. And so I didn't just want to work with anybody. And so I've literally been waiting probably about four years longer than I needed to, maybe slightly less than 1. But it took me a while to choose who I wanted to work with.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:01:27

And also, even though I've come from a project management background and I'm good at managing teams and delegating things, I also love doing things like, I really. I don't know if you're the same, but I actually liked to. To know the cogs in my business, like, inside out before I hand them over to somebody else. And some business owners will quite happily outsource from the beginning the things that they don't want to do, they don't want to learn. But I actually think there's a lot of power that comes from knowing business structures, processes, the reason why you came to do something, rather than completely handing that over. But that's just a preference. And I'm in a similar situation right now where I've got all of the things going on and a lot of the things that I didn't do this year because of what's going on with my dad and other things I haven't been able to implement the way that I thought I had at the beginning of the year. When you're like, this is what we're going to do this year, but that is what I'm now moving into 2025.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:02:21

And so a lot of my fundamental structures within my business, the gratitude and vision building journey, turn into Evergreen and bringing new courses and in and, you know, growing the business club. So all of these things, you get to the point where you're like, actually, if I want to do that well, then I need support both from others and also from practical tools or practices and ways to get things done, alongside which I think a lot of people will resonate with this. Honoring our. We've talked about this before, but honoring our body, our cycles, our. Our energy levels so that we can get the most out of those productive Duracell Bunny moments that we sometimes are bestowed with. And we're like, yay, we can do.

Melissa Amos [: 00:03:10

All of the things.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:03:11

And then the other times, we're just like, oh, not today. And that's okay, too. That's okay, too.

Melissa Amos [: 00:03:18

It always comes back into knowing yourself, like, wherever about. And I like to know things.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:03:25

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:03:26

And which is great. However, I like to know things and then I hold on to them. And I've discovered, especially in the last three years or so, that there's things that I just don't need to know. And if I do know them, then they take up space in my brain, my energy field, and it's not conducive to anything. And so I'm the one that will be. Now, I, for example, my emails. I write my emails. I can't tell you how they get to the people's inboxes because that just goes straight to my va.

Melissa Amos [: 00:04:04

And then she does all this stuff. I write my landing pages, I send that over to my team as if by magic. It's then there. And I think if I knew how to do it, I would then do it.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:04:20

Yeah, there is that danger because I love creating LinkedIn pages and I love sending emails out. So I totally get that. And I think there comes a part where you've got to. You just got to give over the reins. When you found the right support structures and you've got the right people in your team, then it becomes a lot easier to do that.

Melissa Amos [: 00:04:40

Yep.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:04:41

Absolutely. Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:04:43

But then there's the things love to do that I know that I need to do. Hold on, let me caveat. The. What I love best and what's most natural for me is this energy of responding. For example, recording this podcast, you know, that we have a date and a time that we're there, I show up and now we're Responding to whatever inspiration comes in and comes through.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:05:04

Right.

Melissa Amos [: 00:05:04

There's not, yeah, I need to show up here and yes, we need to set the date. But there's not like an active, it's not like a self motivation thing. It's I show up, up, we have a commitment. I'm very good at keeping my commitments. And then there's a response and there's a conversation that is definitely my strength. It comes natural to me. I enjoy it. Like I come alive in it, all of that stuff.

Melissa Amos [: 00:05:28

But then there's the other stuff that I enjoy doing. I love writing.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:05:34

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:05:34

I love sharing thoughts and I love inspiring people when it comes to, for example, writing my emails because it's that. I suppose it's because it's like not an appointment and because I have to just do it at some point and there's not that responsive energy. Like if you emailed me and said Melissa, to write to me about this, I'm like, yeah, and I will email you back or I'll write you your post or I'll do the thing. And it's this responsive energy. And today, this week, all of the things, many of the things that I need to do in that it's that salvation need to get this done. The deadline isn't like it needs to be done now, but there is some, there's some. Which is at uni, I was the one. I'm like, oh, I've got six weeks to do this.

Melissa Amos [: 00:06:31

And I'm like, I've no need to write my 20,000 word thing in two weeks. I think I work quite well under that kind of pressure. And so I started to think about some of the hacks that I have that I put myself in. So it's things like making it because I know my strengths. I'm good at responding, good at showing up for appointments. So it might be that this afternoon I'm meeting with a colleague and we're going to write some emails together and making the most of my.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:07:05

I love that. Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:07:08

It's also this begin with the end in mind. I'm sure that's from one of these. Is that from Seven Habits?

Beth Hewitt [: 00:07:16

Possibly. I've definitely read it. Yeah, it'll spring to mind.

Melissa Amos [: 00:07:19

Begin with the end in mind. It's. It's so simple. But having that thought, for example, of when you receive my email and how that might make you feel or if the email has a purpose to. I don't invite you into a workshop when you come into that workshop and how that might help you to have a perspective shift or how that might help you to show up or how that might allow me to express a certain thing that's been on my mind and I'll think of that and I'll think of the person and it's almost as if I have that appointment with you at 4:00 next week. And so this is simply preparing for that.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:08:09

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:08:10

And that, that motivates me so much more than I've got to write 10 emails today.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:08:17

Yeah. It takes a fun out of it, doesn't it, when we think of it that way. But I love that you know yourself so well that you're slotting your tasks into that model. I think that's clever. That's really clever.

Melissa Amos [: 00:08:29

Little life hack.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:08:31

That is a good, a good life hack. So I don't know if I've spoken about the placemat technique before, but it is having a visual representation of all of the things that you've got to do, but then being very selective about the ones that I focus on in any day. And I think I've talked a little bit about like my to do list before, but I always know. So the placemark technique comes from the book Ask and it is given by Jerry Nesta Hicks where you draw the line down the center of your page. On the right hand side you place all of the things that need to be done. And on the left hand side you write the three things that you're gonna do that day. And at the top you put your list, you, your name, whatever, top of yours. And at the other side you put universe or universal manager.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:09:20

And it's almost like you're handing over. So if you haven't got a va, you're not ready for a VA or, or a team, you maybe not got to that point right now. Put all of the things on the right hand side, hand them over to the universal manager, knowing that they're going to be taken care of. What happens when we do that sometimes is that those things actually just magically happen because we're setting that intention, we're placing them over there, we know that we're going to do them at some point in the future, they're going to be taken care of. And what happens is you might get an email about something that's on that side that makes it easy for you to do the thing when the time is ready or an opportunity might present itself or the course that you needed to learn about to do something. On the right hand side, it just appears because it is, it's front and center of your mind. But not so much that you're having to focus all of your attention on it because the things that you are focusing on are the three things on the left hand side of the page. Having just three things, tangible things that you can physically tick off at the end of the day really is a good motivation for the next day because it's manageable, it's easy to get through and you can see that you physically are moving forward and towards your goals and the bigger vision.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:10:36

So that is one of my top tips. You can obviously change it and make it work for you. I know people have taken that and then change that and made that fit the way that their brain works and how to plan their diary. But I have used that. The reason I started using that was about 10 years ago when I had work related stress which turned into depression and then anxiety. When I went back into the workforce, I wanted to start from a really kind of white sheet of paper, no distractions, start as we mean to go on. And so this was one of the things that I implemented so that I could always feel like I wasn't going to feel overwhelmed with my daily work tasks. And it's just carried on, it's worked so well.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:11:19

It's just carried forward into everything that I do. The other thing I did, just side note on that was, and I'm sure we've got lots of listeners who've got handbags filled with nappies and dummies and bills and car keys and all of the things. When I went through that episode, I said, I'm not going to have a bag anymore. I'm not going to have a bag with all of this stuff to carry around because it was like a physical representation of all of the stuff that I needed to do. So as well as doing the placemat, I always, I did some other things as well. I got rid of my handbag and I've never had a handbag ever since. If it can't fit in my pocket or my coat pocket, then I don't need it. I don't need it.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:11:57

And it's amazing what you can actually carry around with you. When I'm at the supermarket, if I haven't got a carry bag, I'm like the master of carrying things. But that's another story altogether.

Melissa Amos [: 00:12:06

I love that. Yeah, it is such a representation. Oh my God. There's so much I love about that. The co creation aspect, the trust in the universe, the focus on the tasks, the handbag. So I'm similar with my handbag.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:12:21

Like I hate having A bag.

Melissa Amos [: 00:12:22

And I don't just have a bag. A lot of people just have a bag. The bag.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:12:27

Yeah, the bag of all bugs.

Melissa Amos [: 00:12:29

My. My bag of all bags is like a phone bag. They're like. It's like a wallet on a thing. And it's got enough room for my phone, which is massive. Phones are huge now, aren't they? Especially when they've got a case on them. So that just. Just about slots in my keys.

Melissa Amos [: 00:12:47

Because I don't like having things in my pockets either. And I don't really wear jeans. I'm not really a genie person. So when I wear like the big baggy things and you put some. A phone in your pocket pulls everything down. And so that's not a good look in the supermarket. So I've got my teeny tiny bag, my keys, my phone, even all my credit cards and everything are like, in my phone. But then if I'm going out, like if I'm going into London or doing something, then I also have a quite small bag which will also fit in like this, like a spray, like hand sanitizery, deodorant, cleaning spray, a tiny hand cream called Melissa.

Melissa Amos [: 00:13:28

And if I'm super organized, I have tissues.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:13:32

Yeah, I'm the same. And maybe like a lipstick or something. And my keys or, you know, my hotel card or my credit card. That's it. Yeah, I'm exactly the same. And I think it takes the weight.

Melissa Amos [: 00:13:45

Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:13:46

Off. It's literally clearing the space that we're in by having less baggage with us. And I know there'll be some people like, I need to have everything and that's absolutely fine too. But I have got much. From a mental health point of view, it would be. Seems silly having a clear bag.

Melissa Amos [: 00:14:03

It is all energy. And as soon as we think of life as energetic and that everything is energetic, whether that's your to do list, whether that's what's in your handbag, whether that's the clothes you're wearing, whether that's the thought in your head or whether that is the emotion that you're feeling, everything is energetic. And the lighter load that we can carry, the more free that we can be for the inspiration. Because our inspiration, our intuition, this connection into ourselves and a higher power, if you like, is it's always there. And what stops us from hearing it or understanding it is the heaviest stuff, like the physical representations of things. So it's even. I'm looking at my desk. I've got two card decks open.

Melissa Amos [: 00:14:56

One of them is the deck. And then there's the box taking up space. I've got a huge crystal sitting on there and the reason it's sitting on there and not where it usually sits, which is usually on top of my cards, is because the other day I had a stomach cramper so I put it on my tummy and then I've taken it off and I just put it on there because that's what I do. I put things down and they're dead.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:15:22

Disappear with you. I hear you.

Melissa Amos [: 00:15:25

I have my tea and my mini cauldron that holds my tea strainer like lid, the tea lid. So you have my little cauldron, a shell with palo santo and an organite thing. And I've got quite a big desk and what they call placemat thing, like a flower of life, where you put your tea. Yeah, poster, that's the word. Right. So I'm looking at all of this and it's all stuff that I've used, that's why it's there. And actually I'll look at this and be like, oh, my desk is quite tidy because I see the space around the things. But in reality, like I will now just come and start work.

Melissa Amos [: 00:16:10

But after this conversation, that's not going to happen. I'm going to put those cards away, I'm going to just keep the ones out that I'll be using. I'm also looking under my laptop. I've got an energy dot, a rose quartz and so I'm going to clear that first and this is what's going to happen. I'm going to clear that first and then I'll probably do three other things and I'll be like, oh, no, I didn't write my emails today because I. But I do have a very tidy clean desk, so help me with that one.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:16:39

Beth, I. We've talked about the clean desk policy. I don't remember what it worked before, but I do now have. I do clean my desk at the end of the day again. That's another clearing out the old for the new to begin again tomorrow. So I think it's just preference, isn't it? I'm the same as you, I can see around clutter. My other half cannot. He will very happily follow me around the house cleaning up.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:17:05

Like, why is there vacuum down here? And now you're like cleaning the bathroom.

Melissa Amos [: 00:17:08

And you've got all this stuff.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:17:10

I'm like that. It'd be finished with a vacuum. No, that's why it's still downstairs outside the living room kind of thing. Yeah. I think having been able to clear the space is going to be. Is going to be helpful. But equally sometimes, like if you're like me and Mel, who can create order out of chaos, then you might be able to thrive in that environment as well. But there's a lot to be said for clear desks and things.

Melissa Amos [: 00:17:30

There is. Because actually what it is that I want to. In some environments this will be. For some tasks this would be helpful. But because what I need to be doing is organizing and this organization, it's. I think for me it comes back to this, making an appointment with it. Because if you were coming to my space, there's no way all of this stuff would be here. This place would be absolutely.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:17:53

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:17:53

Tidy. And it's having that. I'm going to use the word respect. I'm not sure it's quite the right word, but it's having that respect for ourselves and for the work that we're doing that it has this importance. And it's okay now that I know that this needs to be done. It's something very important. It's not just I need to write 10 emails and I need to write a presentation. It's I am helping people have a new perspective shift.

Melissa Amos [: 00:18:21

I'm helping the spiritual industry become. Have higher standards.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:18:26

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:18:26

And if everything's energy, then having a hair clip. I didn't tell you about my haircut that's also on my desk. Having my hair clip above my tarot cards over there.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:18:36

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:18:37

It's not the energetic representation of what it is that I want to come and that I want to put out in the world. And so there is this importance of space and you think there's whole systems around it with feng shui and all these incredible systems that. That we can look at and they work for a reason. And it's finding that. What's the word? The optimum conditions for what it is that we are wanting to cultivate and create in the world.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:19:11

Yeah, I fully agree. And it's interesting, I think, when you start to look at different facets of your life, how you might be able to do this really well in some areas, but not so well in other areas. But until we look at that. So it might be that your desk is tidy, but your garden needs tending to and we can actually learn a lot about our. Ourselves from. Where am I? Were you smiling at me like that or I tell you I've called you out.

Melissa Amos [: 00:19:39

No, I know my garden's fine, but that's got nothing to do with me. Right. I was just thinking if I start writing on. On my list of the things that need to be done and the things that the universe can take care of. Yeah, My husband is quite similar to yours. And he just goes, I've literally. I can see him in the house and he's like straightening up the shoes mine. And I can see him just tidying some things up.

Melissa Amos [: 00:20:01

And I think if I put that on my list of the to take care of.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:20:04

Yeah, it will totally happen.

Melissa Amos [: 00:20:06

I might have. If I put clean my office on the unic list, could you imagine he comes in here and just cleans the office. I'll be like, you know that I do that.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:20:18

I do that quite often. It's not like I'm putting it there intentionally for like my other half to do it, but I know that it's things that need to be done. And I think just putting that intention out there is incredibly powerful. That somebody might be like, oh, you know what, I'm going to clean the kitchen today.

Melissa Amos [: 00:20:33

Or we're going to.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:20:34

I'm going to deep clean the microwave or whatever. If it's there front and center.

Melissa Amos [: 00:20:38

Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:20:38

Then I once did this ages ago. I can't remember what it was for. It was to do with my kitchen and I was like, I put. I wanted a new kitchen and then the next day my oven broke and then my, my other half was like, should we just. Instead of just getting a new oven, should we just do the whole kitchen? I was like, yes. And it just happens. You've got. You just need to set these intentions.

Melissa Amos [: 00:21:00

I'm writing it down. I found. So I think I've spoken about this before. I love a bit of stationary. I love a bit of stationery. And I buy it like especially the organizing things. And I use it for, I'm gonna say a week and I think even that's generous. And then it stays there.

Melissa Amos [: 00:21:17

God, look at that thing. And every now and then I put it out and then I forget about it and then I buy another one. And so the cycle continues.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:21:23

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:21:23

This is one of such things as I'm holding in my hand. Beth. But I found. I didn't find Kobe fat. My son found yesterday one that I bought which is so sexy. It's like a walker, only about just over a four size. And it's got all the days.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:21:39

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:21:40

And the to do list. And I'm like, I can go and get that. Another thing to put on my desk. I can go and get that and I can go and write down the things for me and the things for the universe. So I'm going to be very organized. I have a feeling I'm going to be very organized and get nothing done.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:21:57

Hello. Once you've done it once.

Melissa Amos [: 00:22:00

Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:22:01

And then, yeah, just keep on top of it. Let me know how you're going with it. Another hack that just dropped into my head as you were talking then was with emails like physical scheduling of your diary and things like that is what I try to do now, if I remember. So I might do it after this call is in the morning, look at my diary and then blank out any space that is in the following day's day. So that now becomes my time. Because I feel like when you're busy business owners, it's very easy for a client just to drop a quick one to one in or to book a session or something. And I think if you, if you are within that 24 hour window, that's not really giving you enough time to prepare and be present fully or to maybe get those things that come to front of mind, oh, I must book my MOT tomorrow or I must ring the hairdressers or I must go to the post office. Those are the things you tend to do like in the immediate.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:23:04

So in the morning, if you're able to book out, look at your diary and go, okay, tomorrow I've got three hours of nothing. I'm just going to blank that out in my diary.

Melissa Amos [: 00:23:11

Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:23:12

Then that's not to say that if a client goes, can you help me with this? You're not going to do that. But you get to choose. You can say, no, I'm busy tomorrow, I've got other things I need to focus on. Here's my link for next week kind of thing. Or you go, actually, I haven't got anything pressing, so I'm going to honor that and allow that to happen. And again, that just giving yourself that, it could be just like three hours in the whole of the day. But that three hours you can now use to either give yourself space or to really concentrate on something that you otherwise wouldn't have done. So yeah, yeah, I like that.

Melissa Amos [: 00:23:49

And I am, I'm quite good at that. I, for example, my yoga is in my diary. Like that's in my diary. You can't, it's there. And then if I'm, if I, for whatever reason can't go, I'm not booked on it, I'm on the wait list tomorrow. Oh, tomorrow I had all day. I'm like, I'm gonna go to yoga and then I'm gonna do Pilates and I'm gonna, I'm gonna like, re. Like nurture my body tomorrow.

Melissa Amos [: 00:24:13

And then I, I mess up with the gym membership and I couldn't book on anything. And now I'm like fifth on the wait list for like everything. But it's fine because actually I've got all of this admin that needs to be done and this is the universe probably going, hey, Mel, you probably won't relax so much. So I. But I am very good at just blanking out those bits. But you've just inspired me for something else that I'm also good at at keeping gaps and spaces between stuff. So I've got. I will make sure that there's enough time, not too much that I then come out of the mode, but there's enough space from one to the other.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:24:56

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:24:57

And actually that is a very good space when I'm in that mindset and in that energy channel to actually spend five minutes. Because that's all it really takes to write one email. Yeah, you use that momentum to just write one. Which I can definitely do today because I was looking at this evening, I was like, oh, I've got a call at 6 and then I've got a call at 7:30. But there is. I've got 30 minutes or 20 minutes in between that time. And if five of those minutes could just be knocking one email out or doing one page of my presentation.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:25:42

Yeah, it's.

Melissa Amos [: 00:25:44

That feels easier, doesn't it, then the whole task.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:25:48

I agree. I also think it's, you know, only honoring your time. But you're honoring your client's time. If it's like a client that you're going to go on to do it because you're preparing yourself, you're preparing the space, you're thinking about them up front. We all remember like corporate nine to five days and if you're already listening, if you're already. If you're still in that or you want to continue to still be in that space. But we all know that those experiences of meeting after meeting, meeting at the end of the day, you're literally like, I don't know what we did in the 9:00 meeting.

Melissa Amos [: 00:26:17

Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:26:18

Like, yeah, what are all the to do? Like the to dos like will are off the scale because I've just been bum that to me at one time I would have thought that's like super productive. And I've done so much today.

Melissa Amos [: 00:26:29

But yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:26:31

Have you done anything and been present? Are you consciously aware of everything that we have discussed today or are you having to have to actually, at the end of the day, literally think back and look through, you know, to make sense of everything. So to actually have that space in between. And after, even if you haven't got another thing after, it's good to put the space in your diary because then at least you can be like, okay, now I can breathe now. I can think about what I just did. I can think about tomorrow, I can think about what I need to do next kind of thing. So that's how I stay productive.

Melissa Amos [: 00:27:06

That is a great hat in the whole Carrie Wood chop water. Yes. When you're doing the thing, do the thing. Do the thing being the thing and then don't be the thing. One thing that I find which is bit basic, but I don't know about you, I don't know if you've ever tried. This is. I go onto YouTube and I type in brown noise and I just have it on and it's just like white. I don't know if there's a slight different frequency me.

Melissa Amos [: 00:27:39

Brown noise seems to work better. White noise is fine. Brown noise does seem to really work well. And I just put it on and I just find that I have. The time goes. I'm more focused. The time just goes. And I don't feel like I need to be stimulated by checking my phone or checking my emails or going and looking around and doing things.

Melissa Amos [: 00:28:06

And that was how I finished editing my book. The final edit.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:28:11

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:28:11

Which I'm just getting in the last hurdle. And it took me so long and I was just like, oh, just try this.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:28:17

Put it on.

Melissa Amos [: 00:28:18

Then I was like an hour and a half later, I was like, oh, my God, I've done it. Because all it took was an hour and a half of focus time. We'll be having that on today. And I don't know what it is. I think something about tuning the brain, then not searching for stimulation somewhere else.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:28:36

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:28:36

I think that's partly how it works. And I tune. I don't hear it. And what's so interesting, like, I've spoken before about how sensitive I am to noise and sound and different things. Whereas that just sits in the background. Then my husband will come in, he'll be like, what is that noise? It's my focus time.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:28:57

I think I have tried brown noise in the past. I do always. I sent you an image yesterday. I have a different playlist of Beth's working playlist. And what I did find the other day was that if I'm listening to music that I am know very well inside out I can focus really well if I like select a new piece of music or like maybe listen to an artist who I but haven't listened to all of their albums and I put them on. I can't function the same because I'm trying to learn new music and do the task and that. So then I'm like, this is not working. I need to put best playlist back on where I can just completely forget.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:29:35

So I do have playlists and music for different tasks.

Melissa Amos [: 00:29:38

So I can't listen to music while I'm doing at uni. I used to put music on while I was studying and I found it really helpful. Now I think I would if it's lyric music, unless it's chanting. So I sometimes will put on some mantra like maybe some like Davao or I don't know, like I might sometimes put that on if I feel like I need an energy shift with it or if I'm writing something that needs that energy and I want to cultivate it more. Even if it's really low. Classical music is. Really works really well for me. I think people say like baroque, there's something about the rhythm of baroque that can help you, that can help you focus.

Melissa Amos [: 00:30:32

But this is the thing, it comes back again to knowing yourself. If there's. If a bit of noise space in the room, if having something on is going to help you focus, then do I know people who have their TV on all day and then they're doing their work and they're like happy as anything. Even the TV on for me, even if it's silent, even if I do not care and I don't watch that much tv, I will end up just my eyes. Yeah.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:30:58

I'm the same.

Melissa Amos [: 00:30:58

Yeah. And I will stare.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:31:00

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:31:00

And then I'll be lost in.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:31:02

The only time that works for me is at Christmas time. I don't know why. I think when you're starting to wind down and you're just doing those tasks that you want to do before the new year. If I put like a Christmas film or I. I can quite get into the. The vibe of that, but I can't do it the rest of the year. If I put Netflix on and tried to create a course, then who knows what could happen? Anything could happen.

Melissa Amos [: 00:31:25

Yeah. Might be a bit of a rom com theme in the middle of the course and you're like, what is that?

Beth Hewitt [: 00:31:31

Might be inspired in completely different way.

Melissa Amos [: 00:31:34

Yeah. It really comes back to knowing the why of why you're doing while you're doing the thing. I think for me it's like, start there, then knowing that you're supported. I love that I'm actually going to do your Abraham's placemat of the things. Okay. These are the three things I need to focus on. Because another side note to that, in my head right now, I have hours of work that I need to do. Hours.

Melissa Amos [: 00:32:02

Like I have got so much and I know that when I write it down and I. It's not that much because it's not. It seems big, but it's not huge. Yeah, no. So having. I will have that. These are the things that need to get done. The universe can deal with this.

Melissa Amos [: 00:32:19

These are the three things. Because there's not going to be more than three things I can focus on today. I'm going to do and focus on and get completed and I'm going to have my white noise on. So it's knowing those things that are going to give you the best conditions. And I just said to my husband of what I'm doing today and I said, I've got Yoga Books at 12. I may or may not go. And now I'm thinking, I know that yoga will help me focus and concentrate on everything that I'm doing this afternoon. So I will be.

Melissa Amos [: 00:32:53

Even though that's an hour and a half and even a little more out of my day, I think it's a good hour and a half. I think I'll get an hour and a half more done.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:33:04

I love that. I love when we can just collapse the time and get loads of stuff done. I think it's the distractions, like you say, like a lot of the stuff you can do quickly when we're really focused. And then it's the amount of distractions that we have, like the phone or the email or the big whatever that can take a 90 minute task can turn into a day task sometimes.

Melissa Amos [: 00:33:25

Easy, easy, easy peasy. There's one, one. And then we'll. And then we'll close because ironically we're coming a really long call because I'm stacking myself because I'm like.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:33:36

We started later, though. We started late.

Melissa Amos [: 00:33:38

The more I talk, the less I will get done. So there is a quantum thing. So in quantum physics, we know that time isn't what we think it is and that time can be collapsed. And so if you can take a little bit of time in the morning, visualizing so that we said about begin with the end in mind, but even thinking about finishing the task and being at the end of it and tuning into that future version of you, that has Done the things that has got the things done that you need to do. And tuning into her. What this does is a few things. One, it motivates you because you're like, that's good. So on a psychological level, it motivates you.

Melissa Amos [: 00:34:23

Two, it begins to inform you of what actually needs to be done.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:34:28

Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:34:29

Three, it. If we do it. If we do it, it will give you that dopamine hit or that serotonin hit of, oh, look, I've done it before you've even done it. So you'll have that feeling of accomplishment which will motivate you. Dopamine is a great motivator if we utilize it correctly. So it will do all of these things. And on a quantum level, it's. We could talk about this all day.

Melissa Amos [: 00:34:56

We try and break it down from a quantum level. We have all of these. This field of possibilities. So if we break it down into at the end of today, I either can do it or can't. Haven't done it. Have done it. Haven't done it. Have done so much.

Melissa Amos [: 00:35:11

Haven't done it. Done this or this. Like a million things could have happened. And right now they're all in this field of possibilities and they all exist according to quantum physics. If I spend some time bringing my consciousness into the reality that it is that I want to create, which is this work has been done. What I'm doing is I'm putting the odds in the favor of that outcome actually happening.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:35:35

Absolutely. Yeah.

Melissa Amos [: 00:35:36

Anchored that timeline down. And now the drawing towards it becomes more inevitable.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:35:42

Yes.

Melissa Amos [: 00:35:43

Than if I'm just like. So that's. And it only needs to take 60 seconds to do that.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:35:51

So powerful and great tip to do first thing in the morning. So I've loved our conversation. Hopefully we've shared some top tips. You've inspired me because I'm putting together kind of a business. I haven't got a title for it yet, but it's going to be like a business Fundamentals for Spiritual Entrepreneurs. And I really think that the productivity hacks is something that should really play a part of that. You just helped me create like a module kind of thing, but other things in there.

Melissa Amos [: 00:36:19

And is that not the perfect example of how the universe then delivers to you the thing that you want as you need while you were doing this. Anyway, no more time. And now you've got amazing.

Beth Hewitt [: 00:36:30

And guess what? It was on the right hand side of my to do list.