Technological Detox: How Disconnecting Can Reconnect You to Yourself

Melissa Amos: 00:00:00

Good morning, Beth. Good morning, Mel. How are you doing? I'm

Melissa Amos: 00:00:03

good, how are you? I'm good. I've

Beth Hewitt: 00:00:06

had a funny old week and I know you've had a,

Beth Hewitt: 00:00:10

an exciting week as well where all of

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my technology has gone to pot. But

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then I got lots of new technology, so I've got a new phone,

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I've got an Amazon scribe for my

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birthday. So whilst it felt

Beth Hewitt: 00:00:29

very annoying for the first few days that I couldn't connect with anybody, it

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was actually quite liberated, it was actually quite nice. So I was like up leveling

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in all the technology areas. So I've been offline

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a little bit, but it's been good because I think it makes you think

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about where you're spending your time and energy and

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thinking about how you might want to start moving forward, how you would like to

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approach your routines and things like that. But I know that you've been

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off grid in a different way. I have been off grid.

Melissa Amos: 00:00:58

I've just come back from Bulgaria and been in

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the beautiful mountains on a business

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retreat and I was offline a lot, I was hardly on my

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phone and obviously we were focused on the business rather than in the

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business. And it is amazing how when you are not in the

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consumption mode which our phones and our

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technologies can often connect us to how creative we

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can really get. And for me, so I had this

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beautiful room with this little terrace

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overlooking the mountains and

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it was. We were in the middle of nowhere and every night

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I woke up at 4am, which

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was weird because it's not. There's a two hour time difference but as we know,

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I do not get up at 6am, so 4am every morning I woke

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up and it was pitch black and the stars are out in the sky

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and I would just go and stand on the

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terrace on my own in the silence and

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the realizations that I had in

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that not long, 20 minutes blown me away.

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Like it's not so there's things coming out and coming through

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and maybe there's a call, I wonder if other listeners have been

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the same. But maybe there's this call for silence where

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as we're recording this, we're in autumn

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now, we're moving into Halloween

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season, we're in Halloween season and I think there's

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this real call for kind of going inwards

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and noticing and slowing down

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and stopping and yeah, just seeing

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what's there in that thinning veil that

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all the while we are sitting on our technology we don't access.

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:50

Yeah, it's sad, isn't it, that we've become so not just

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reliant on it, but also that it's maybe taken over

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the natural order of how we would approach or do something. We're

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so reliant on the tech. But I agree with

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the silence. Just coming back to the tech

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with the Amazon scribe. It's all black and white and I think there's

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something powerful about. You can get limited access to websites

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and things, but the fact that you haven't got those colorful distractions

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of social media. The black and white is really working for me. And I've been

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thinking about why. What is it about black and white? What is it about

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light or the absence of light that allows us to be

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silent or be still or to be nostalgic when you think about

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black and white photographs and things like that. And then interestingly last

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night I didn't know there's a bedtime thing

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built into the phone. And at 11 o'clock my

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phone went black and white. Yeah. I'd never experienced before because that my

Beth Hewitt: 00:03:50

other phone was about five years old, so I didn't have that tech. And

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just looking at apps in black and white, it actually makes you not want

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to. Yes. It doesn't stimulate the mind in the same way as on. I

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must click on that notification. I must go see what's happening around

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wine. Does that the notifications turn off? Yeah. When

Melissa Amos: 00:04:09

I've plugged my phone in. Please. When I go to

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bed, all the notifications turn off. Everything goes black and white. And

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you're right. It just stops you feeling like it's

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not. It's just not very exciting. Which is perfect before bed

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and then we sleep better and where we can move

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into our gratitude practice. It's

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interesting with you, Beth, because I noticed that you'd said

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a few weeks ago how you wanted

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to slow down a bit and you wanted to be. Be more

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mindful with your technology and the universe. Like. Ben, you're

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not doing it. Yeah, Here we go. I'm going to break your phone.

Beth Hewitt: 00:04:50

It was exactly that. Our words are incredibly powerful. The things that we're telling ourselves

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are really powerful. And I think we spoke on the last

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episode about this new journaling practice.

Melissa Amos: 00:05:02

Yeah. That I've got into and I was talking about you can. When

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:05

you reflect back or just read back on the last few days or entries,

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you notice things. And when I start all of this happened and then I started

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reading back and you're right, my words were, I want

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to slow down, I want to be less tech, I want to spend more time

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journaling. And Then, yeah, the universe literally

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delivered. It was just weird. I was like drying my hair and my phone

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that I've had the last five years, there was no problems with it. It's been

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:31

quite a good phone. The screen went green and then that was.

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:35

It was like, goodbye. Like, great, thanks. But the

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funny thing about that is that the. The Alar alarm, so it died on the

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:42

Tuesday and the alarm was still going off every single morning up until

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about Sunday last week, it was still waking me up. There was no way of

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turning the alarm off because I would just have to press on the screen. I

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:52

just had to. Just had to shove it in a drawer and hope it doesn't

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do anymore. But I don't understand how the battery life lasted so long. Baby. A

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:58

green screen. No, because I'm not using

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:02

it. Yeah, it's been a complete change, but a really

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:05

welcome change. And there was immediate frustration of,

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:09

I can't do this, I can't do that. And there's still things like relogging into

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your banking apps and all those things that need extra steps and notification, but it's

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not the end of the world. It's a welcome thing that's happened. So,

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:21

yeah, words are spells.

Melissa Amos: 00:06:25

And this really shows how when we do put an intention

Melissa Amos: 00:06:29

out there, how

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it's so important to follow through. Yeah. Because I don't think the universe

Melissa Amos: 00:06:36

dishes you up lessons, but I think that it's on your side. And so if

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you put something out there, that this is what I'm going to do and

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you really mean it, that you don't do it. Because then the next day

Melissa Amos: 00:06:48

comes for me. I've been in Bulgaria. There's been all of these things that have

Melissa Amos: 00:06:51

been coming up. I've made promises to myself,

Melissa Amos: 00:06:54

I've declared. I feel really like I'm on a mission

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now. And if I just sat back, which is the easy thing to do,

Melissa Amos: 00:07:02

which is what my fear, my ego, like my. An older

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part of me is, yeah, don't worry about that. Just stay in your little

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cave. You don't need to tell anyone about it. And you

Melissa Amos: 00:07:13

know that that voice is there and going on.

Melissa Amos: 00:07:16

However, the more I take action on it, the more the

Melissa Amos: 00:07:20

universe is supporting me. And I feel like if I

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don't take action and I listen more to that fear

Melissa Amos: 00:07:28

voice, it's almost like something will

Melissa Amos: 00:07:31

come. Yeah. To make. To remind me. There

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we go. To remind me about how important it is that

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I do the thing. So I don't think the

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universe tries to send us lessons, but I do think it

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Works with us and so can seem like a reward

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when we're actually doing the thing. Yeah. And can feel like

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a punishment if we're not. But it's not all of

Melissa Amos: 00:07:58

it supporting us. I love that. Yeah. It can feel like a

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:02

punishment if we're not. I think that's quite a powerful statement.

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:06

So, yeah, that's what I've been up to. It's just getting back online, but in

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:09

a way that feels good. And trying to catch

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:13

myself when I'm like reaching for the game or something

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:17

that I don't really need to play. What games do you play? Did you play?

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:21

I play. I don't even know what the car, what it's called. One called Matchmakers

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:24

where you got to match colors together.

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:28

Totally overstimulated. Big time with the music and everything and the

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:32

characters. Don't need that in my life. But I think

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:36

it's interesting. I've noticed where I've done that. For example, I'll eat

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:40

my tea and after my tea I'll have a cup of tea

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:44

and that's when I'll. While I'm got my cup of tea. Yeah. After my tea,

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:47

I'll start playing on my phone for maybe half an hour. And then

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:51

before you know it, you're. Like, that's half an hour of my life. Half an

Beth Hewitt: 00:08:54

hour of my life. I could have been having an hour conversation. Yeah. See, I

Melissa Amos: 00:08:57

used to play. Do you remember the Nintendo ds?

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:01

Yes. To play. Oh, God, what

Melissa Amos: 00:09:05

was it called? The Brain games. Oh, yeah. I used to play those as well.

Melissa Amos: 00:09:08

I love them. Yeah. And then I had a phase of

Melissa Amos: 00:09:12

playing Candy Crush. But this was when. This

Melissa Amos: 00:09:16

was quite a while ago. Yeah. And I used to get so

Melissa Amos: 00:09:19

obsessed with these things and now I don't.

Melissa Amos: 00:09:23

Now I do. I nothing like it was a

Melissa Amos: 00:09:26

habit that I just had to break. The time I

Melissa Amos: 00:09:30

do is when I'm on an airplane and I'm with the kids

Melissa Amos: 00:09:34

and the kids play the word games like. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:09:37

Or whatever. But I just know. And maybe this is

Melissa Amos: 00:09:41

true for everyone, but I can only speak for me. I just know that as

Melissa Amos: 00:09:45

soon as I start it, I can't stop.

Melissa Amos: 00:09:48

Yeah. No, it's just. It's just a time sucker, isn't

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:52

it? It really is. Yeah. No more games or

Melissa Amos: 00:09:56

no more games. No more games. I got.

Melissa Amos: 00:10:01

It's all fun. My other half plays Candy Crush. And he must have been playing

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:04

it for. It feels like 10, 15 years and he must be on

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:08

level 10 million or something. So I don't.

Melissa Amos: 00:10:12

Well done him. Well done him. Yeah. Let's all

Melissa Amos: 00:10:15

celebrate his achievements. Can you remember. I don't know why this has just

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:19

popped. Can you remember car wars on Facebook years and years ago. Parking

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:22

wars. It was a game actually on Facebook where you had to

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:26

park your car. This is a long time ago. I cannot remember that. I

Melissa Amos: 00:10:30

do not remember that. And there was another one. Was it bejeweled or

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:34

something? There was another one on Facebook. There was one called

Melissa Amos: 00:10:38

Drawsome. Oh, did you get four? It was so

Melissa Amos: 00:10:42

good. You had to doodle,

Melissa Amos: 00:10:45

basically. Yes. I think I do remember

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:49

it. So he has a drawer with your finger. Yeah. Right.

Melissa Amos: 00:10:53

But whatever it told and. And send it to. And the

Melissa Amos: 00:10:57

other people had to guess it and, like, obsessed. And my best

Melissa Amos: 00:11:00

one, I can still picture it in my head. My best one was when I

Melissa Amos: 00:11:04

got the Simpsons and I did this masterpiece.

Melissa Amos: 00:11:07

Finger drawings and my big fat fingers.

Melissa Amos: 00:11:11

Yeah, it's. It's great. And it's bonding and

Melissa Amos: 00:11:14

all of this stuff. And also, where are we spending our

Melissa Amos: 00:11:18

time now? I did have a while where I would

Melissa Amos: 00:11:22

listen to stuff while I was doing my

Melissa Amos: 00:11:26

game. Felt like I was multitasking, but the honest

Melissa Amos: 00:11:29

truth is, I didn't. Yeah, it's multitasking.

Beth Hewitt: 00:11:33

I do wonder. I'll sometimes listen to

Beth Hewitt: 00:11:37

audible or something when I'm putting my makeup on or something like that, kind of

Beth Hewitt: 00:11:40

multitasking. But actually, I don't know.

Beth Hewitt: 00:11:44

I think when we focus on one thing and are intentional and focused on it,

Beth Hewitt: 00:11:48

it's much better. I do the ultimate multitasking when I

Melissa Amos: 00:11:51

sleep. Yes. Listen

Melissa Amos: 00:11:55

to. So last week, I was listening to the Conversations with

Melissa Amos: 00:11:59

God series. Oh, yes. I love. But

Melissa Amos: 00:12:03

this week, since I've got home, I've been

Melissa Amos: 00:12:06

listening to, like, meditations

Melissa Amos: 00:12:10

and binaural beat things. And I have been

Melissa Amos: 00:12:13

out. I have been out in five minutes. I'm like, I'm gonna listen to

Melissa Amos: 00:12:17

this. And then it's the morning and I'm like,

Melissa Amos: 00:12:21

oh, and my headphones have fallen off. I think. I wonder how far I

Melissa Amos: 00:12:24

got. Five minutes. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:12:28

In my subliminal. Like, why do I not feel more intelligent

Melissa Amos: 00:12:32

today? It's because your headphones fell off after five minutes because you

Melissa Amos: 00:12:35

were snoring away. You've just reminded me something. I had a really

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:39

weird experience last night when I was in bed. I

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:43

woke up and I was saying words in my head,

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:47

and my partner said them out loud as I was saying them in my

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:50

head. Three words. What's that all about? So then I was trying

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:54

to make it happen. I was like, right, Fast asleep. I'm just going to Say

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:57

some random words in a minute. But it didn't work. But yes, I woke up,

Beth Hewitt: 00:13:01

I said three words in my head and I don't even know why I said

Beth Hewitt: 00:13:04

the words. I just woke up. And then he said them out

Beth Hewitt: 00:13:07

loud in his sleep. In his sleep.

Beth Hewitt: 00:13:11

How weird that. What's interesting is like last week

Melissa Amos: 00:13:14

I think there was this. That something came out about a

Melissa Amos: 00:13:18

study that they did with lucid. In the lucid dreaming state

Melissa Amos: 00:13:22

that people were communicating. Like they now have

Melissa Amos: 00:13:26

evidence that people can communicate in the lucid

Melissa Amos: 00:13:29

dreaming. Oh, I love that. Like remotely.

Melissa Amos: 00:13:34

And it's interesting because when I was on my lucid dreaming

Melissa Amos: 00:13:38

obsession, I had my obsessions. Yeah, lucid dreaming was one of

Melissa Amos: 00:13:41

them. The guy that was teaching me, Charlie Morley, was

Melissa Amos: 00:13:45

talking about how his wife then was an

Melissa Amos: 00:13:49

astral projection specialist,

Melissa Amos: 00:13:53

Jade Shaw. When they used to play these little games especially they're

Melissa Amos: 00:13:56

both like international speakers. And so they'd be off and they'd

Melissa Amos: 00:14:00

play these little games of can they

Melissa Amos: 00:14:03

infiltrate each other, each other's dreams. And he was

Melissa Amos: 00:14:07

sharing one time where they managed to do it. But it was never,

Melissa Amos: 00:14:11

it's never been scientifically proven until.

Melissa Amos: 00:14:14

Wow. So I think something's happening. I think that

Melissa Amos: 00:14:19

the. Maybe it's the time of year. Maybe it just is where the veil,

Melissa Amos: 00:14:22

they say thins as we move into these

Melissa Amos: 00:14:26

darker months. But maybe something is

Melissa Amos: 00:14:30

happening. The consciousness is rising. All of this

Melissa Amos: 00:14:33

stuff that we have been through over the last however many years,

Melissa Amos: 00:14:38

it's. It's leading somewhere. It's not like Candy Crush. It's

Melissa Amos: 00:14:41

not like when you just finish. It was all wasted. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:14:45

This life that we, this game that we're playing, this life that

Melissa Amos: 00:14:49

we're leading is. It's moving and maybe we've hit another

Melissa Amos: 00:14:53

level. Maybe on the game of life.

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:56

Perhaps we have. I feel like this is just a nice catch up

Beth Hewitt: 00:15:00

conversation today. It's just friends just chatting about

Beth Hewitt: 00:15:03

random stuff. This is literally what I talk about with my friends.

Melissa Amos: 00:15:08

If you want a fun evening, guys, come hang out with me because this

Melissa Amos: 00:15:11

is where my brain goes. I love it. So you can imagine

Melissa Amos: 00:15:15

that some friends from my old life

Melissa Amos: 00:15:19

quietly whittled away when they're like, no, you

Melissa Amos: 00:15:22

really odd. But I think everybody's curious on some level. I think it's just, it's

Melissa Amos: 00:15:26

fascinating. I think so. I think some people find it quite draining and

Beth Hewitt: 00:15:30

tiring though, to think about deep stuff all of the time. Where other

Beth Hewitt: 00:15:33

people thrive. Thriving it for sure.

Melissa Amos: 00:15:37

And it is a mind boggle. And I think there's a lot

Melissa Amos: 00:15:41

of people who we just want answers. That's where we're

Melissa Amos: 00:15:45

like. That's what we're brought up with. Like, we have a

Melissa Amos: 00:15:48

philosophical question, we have a science question, we have a maths

Melissa Amos: 00:15:52

problem, we have an English book we're reading in school.

Melissa Amos: 00:15:55

And what we then need to do is find the answer and write

Melissa Amos: 00:15:59

it in the little box and get a tick or a cross. And a lot

Melissa Amos: 00:16:03

of this stuff, there is no ticks nor crosses. There just is

Melissa Amos: 00:16:07

wondering. So maybe this is the case, maybe

Melissa Amos: 00:16:10

not. Who knows? Maybe the universe is listening

Melissa Amos: 00:16:14

to us and breaking our phones when we spend

Melissa Amos: 00:16:18

too much time.

Melissa Amos: 00:16:21

Or maybe it's just a coincidence

Melissa Amos: 00:16:25

or an unfortunate event. Who knows? I'm very

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:29

enamored with my Amazon scribe because I was talking about journaling the last time, wasn't

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:32

there? And I think asking those deep philosophical questions. I've

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:36

now got all of my things in one place

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:40

and I love a notebook and I love a pen, but I'm actually quite

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:43

enjoying the technology because you can create notebooks and you can

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:47

obviously write on it and doodle, you can pick do pictures and things

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:51

and you can annotate your Kindle books and your PDFs and things like that. And

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:55

there's no distractions. Can you,

Melissa Amos: 00:16:58

for example. Yeah. So I guess you can only write. Can you type as

Melissa Amos: 00:17:02

well as it. You can type? Yeah. So like a phone type. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:17:06

You can get a keyboard for it. I think you might be able to get

Beth Hewitt: 00:17:09

a keyboard with it. I'm not sure. I've not explored that

Melissa Amos: 00:17:13

because now you're going to be selling me one. So if I wrote all

Melissa Amos: 00:17:17

my stuff or you're through writing all your stuff on there and all your journaling,

Melissa Amos: 00:17:20

whatever. I'm assuming in this day and age of

Melissa Amos: 00:17:23

AI, that you can then throw it through an AI and it can

Melissa Amos: 00:17:28

give you questions, perspectives, potentially. Yeah.

Beth Hewitt: 00:17:31

So what it can do is when you've handwritten it, it can

Beth Hewitt: 00:17:35

turn it into text and then you can email it to yourself. So then once

Beth Hewitt: 00:17:39

you've got that, you can run it through AI. Okay.

Melissa Amos: 00:17:43

Interesting. Yes. It's so often

Melissa Amos: 00:17:47

like organization of it. And I like. I love a

Melissa Amos: 00:17:51

notebook. Me too. But I've got too many. I've got very

Melissa Amos: 00:17:54

many. And then it's, oh, this, which notebook am I getting

Melissa Amos: 00:17:58

out today for the work that I'm doing? Yeah. And then I think,

Melissa Amos: 00:18:02

oh, I wish I'd have written it in the other notebook. Yeah, like

Melissa Amos: 00:18:06

that. Which notebook is it? Yeah. Because I have a

Melissa Amos: 00:18:09

business one, but now I have two. One was more

Melissa Amos: 00:18:13

learnings like yeah. And one was more

Melissa Amos: 00:18:17

questions and reflections. And then there was a course I was

Melissa Amos: 00:18:21

doing which it all got muddled up. Yeah, I've been the same for

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:25

years. So I've got a to do list, I've got a journal, I've got a

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:28

scripting book. I've got one with like trainings

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:31

in. Then I've got one with what I call like working

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:35

out. If you're working on something, it's just all your scribbles and doodles. So I've

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:38

got all of these different ones, different colors, different sizes, different shapes, different

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:41

everything. Hey, they

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:45

are my daughters. But a notebook was a go to thing that I

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:49

get you when I don't know what to get you for your birthday or Christmas.

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:53

You'll have to think of something else. But yeah, so I don't know if you

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:56

or you. I don't know if you can see everything, but you can. There's.

Melissa Amos: 00:19:00

There's different folders. So I've got a to do folder, I've got a journaling

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:03

folder, I've got a gratitude journey folder, I've got a scripting fold, I've got a

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:06

thoughts one. I've got one just with doodles in. And then inside each of

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:10

these is like the actual to do

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:14

lists. So I've got, I've got an October folder with

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:17

my notebook. It looks like a notebook. And so for example,

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:21

this is my birthday. I did have a

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:25

to do list on my birthday. Oh no, that's the 11th of October. But you

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:28

can see like all of the things I was working on the 11th. And the

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:31

cool thing is like anything that you haven't done, you can literally

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:35

circle it and then lift it and put it on the list for tomorrow.

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:38

I don't even have to write it back out again. And then you can just

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:42

add pages upon pages of whatever you want to write on it. So

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:46

I'm like big time sold. There's the remarkable as

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:49

well, which I know a lot of people buy, which is a little bit more

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:52

expensive. But I like this

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:56

because obviously it's Amazon and I can put all my books and all my Audible

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:59

books on there as well. And you can play your Audible if you link it

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:03

up to your surround sound or whatever you've got in your

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:06

house. You can listen to Audible books on there as well while

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:10

you're doing. So it's not got a speaker in. It, it hasn't got a speaker

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:13

on it, but you can link it up to any Bluetooth. So what I'm hearing

Melissa Amos: 00:20:17

is I can listen to my audible because I get so

Melissa Amos: 00:20:20

inspired when I'm listening to

Melissa Amos: 00:20:23

audiobooks and I think, oh, that's reminded

Melissa Amos: 00:20:26

me, oh, there's good content or, oh, I can add that into my program

Melissa Amos: 00:20:30

or whatever. And it disappears.

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:34

Yeah, yeah. Goes in the big file

Melissa Amos: 00:20:38

of brain. Yeah. So you could. You can make

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:42

notes on your books, you can make notes on your.

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:45

Whatever. I'm just sold so far. So, yeah. So it's been good,

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:49

this technology kind of reboot.

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:53

And because I didn't have a phone, I got. This was a

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:56

birthday present. And because I didn't have a phone, I was like, and I

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:00

have my scribe before my birthday because I'm really sad I ain't

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:04

got my phone. And that was

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:08

allowed. I was allowed to have my scribe. So that

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:11

kept me happy then for a few days whilst my new phone was

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:15

coming. Breaking the rules. You are breaking all the rules

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:18

of birthday. Yeah. The birthday rules. We've got Christmas

Melissa Amos: 00:21:22

coming, so that's gonna be a horse. So maybe. Although

Melissa Amos: 00:21:25

I have just. I have just bought my new desire map.

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:30

Yes, you said. Yeah. And I am, like, so excited

Melissa Amos: 00:21:34

to get it. It's nuts. So I just want it in my hands so I

Melissa Amos: 00:21:37

can start planning for next year. Oh, it'd be good.

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:41

Good. So now I'm like, God, if I have another thing,

Melissa Amos: 00:21:44

then the desire map will just. But you

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:48

could. If it's in a. Is it. Oh, it's a physical book, isn't it?

Melissa Amos: 00:21:52

Yeah, yeah, it's a physical book.

Melissa Amos: 00:21:55

Although, because they invited me to be an

Melissa Amos: 00:21:59

affiliate and I was like, okay, I do have access to the PDFs. That's

Melissa Amos: 00:22:03

why I could and then not have the book. But

Melissa Amos: 00:22:06

there's something about picking it up. It's got

Melissa Amos: 00:22:10

really just nice energy. Yeah. Through it.

Melissa Amos: 00:22:14

And I was actually thinking. Because I was talking to someone about it the other

Melissa Amos: 00:22:17

day and it actually

Melissa Amos: 00:22:21

got me thinking that it was Danielle

Melissa Amos: 00:22:24

laporte who created the desire

Melissa Amos: 00:22:28

map that actually got me into creating words of

Melissa Amos: 00:22:31

the year and guiding words rather

Melissa Amos: 00:22:35

than goals and resolutions. It was

Melissa Amos: 00:22:38

teachings. I listened to her audiobook

Melissa Amos: 00:22:42

years ago, don't even know how

Melissa Amos: 00:22:46

many years ago. And I was like, this makes well more

Melissa Amos: 00:22:50

sense. And creating New Year's resolution, like,

Melissa Amos: 00:22:53

really going into. She talks about your core desired feelings.

Melissa Amos: 00:22:57

And what I found with the panel is it really gets

Melissa Amos: 00:23:01

you focused on. Is what I'm doing this

Melissa Amos: 00:23:05

week actually moving me

Melissa Amos: 00:23:09

so further away to my core desired feelings. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:23:13

And the reflection points and where am I going? And getting

Melissa Amos: 00:23:16

refocused on what I am focusing

Melissa Amos: 00:23:20

on over the Next month or so, which

Melissa Amos: 00:23:23

sometimes I get lost in because I love to go with the

Melissa Amos: 00:23:27

flow. Yeah. And I think this is where you and

Melissa Amos: 00:23:31

I do the system differently.

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:35

Yeah, I literally wrote that down last night, actually, in my journaling was

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:39

around finding the balance between

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:42

spontaneity and structure, because I've been

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:46

finding that where I have even I don't like structure.

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:50

Where I have got structure is very beneficial. But then

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:54

when I'm able to be spontaneous and in flow, that's also really

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:58

beneficial than being too rigid around what I do next. I literally wrote that as

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:01

a thought. What is this about? What is the balance? How do you find the

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:04

balance? What is the right balance? Do we need to find the right balance kind

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:07

of thing, or is it just being aware of that? That's interesting. I literally wrote

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:11

that. Those thoughts down. That's nice. It

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:14

is. And maybe it is because we're coming towards the end of the year as

Melissa Amos: 00:24:18

well, that it's something that's on our minds of what have we

Melissa Amos: 00:24:21

achieved? What are we achieving? What are we doing? What are we experiencing? What do

Melissa Amos: 00:24:25

we still want to experience? And all of that.

Melissa Amos: 00:24:29

So I don't know what the answer is. I'm hoping that

Melissa Amos: 00:24:32

having tools like the Desire Map, for me, having

Melissa Amos: 00:24:37

mentorship, really helps with that, like keep that kind

Melissa Amos: 00:24:41

of accountability and that structure sharing. Which is why

Melissa Amos: 00:24:45

you'll notice on my social media that when I have an idea, I'll

Melissa Amos: 00:24:48

often share it straight away. Yes. Then keep me. Not

Melissa Amos: 00:24:52

always, but it will then keep me accountable and make me move

Melissa Amos: 00:24:56

forward into it rather than.

Melissa Amos: 00:25:00

I don't know, things can get lost. I think if we don't have

Melissa Amos: 00:25:03

that focus, however, my natural

Melissa Amos: 00:25:07

inclination is to just flow. It

Melissa Amos: 00:25:10

served me well. But like you, I find that when I have

Melissa Amos: 00:25:14

some form of vessel in which to flow,

Melissa Amos: 00:25:18

then things happen more. I don't

Melissa Amos: 00:25:22

know. Yeah, yeah, obviously. Maybe is the word. It's an interesting topic,

Beth Hewitt: 00:25:25

isn't it? Finding that balance. When my planner

Melissa Amos: 00:25:28

arrives, which should. A month or so, we

Melissa Amos: 00:25:32

can have a discussion about that. Yeah, let's do

Beth Hewitt: 00:25:36

that. And I'm hoping by then, Beth, you have your

Melissa Amos: 00:25:40

own planner that you've released out in. Oh, yeah,

Beth Hewitt: 00:25:43

we shall see. Try to fit everything in. But

Beth Hewitt: 00:25:47

yeah, that. That would be nice. At some point it will come. At some point.

Beth Hewitt: 00:25:51

Who knows what that will. It's on the. It's on the to do list.

Melissa Amos: 00:25:55

It's one of them. It moved over to the next day.

Melissa Amos: 00:26:00

One day I will have a personal

Melissa Amos: 00:26:04

assistant that will give me my to do list.

Melissa Amos: 00:26:07

And also what will make my heart sing is give me a these are

Melissa Amos: 00:26:11

all the things that need to be done that I'm doing for you.

Melissa Amos: 00:26:14

Melissa. As in an AI one or like a natural. We're

Melissa Amos: 00:26:18

an actual human being. A human being one. Yeah. Because that's the next

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:22

thing isn't it? Can use AI till her heart is content.

Melissa Amos: 00:26:26

I think that AI has some real potential and

Melissa Amos: 00:26:30

benefits if we use it to assist us rather

Melissa Amos: 00:26:34

than to. Don't get me started on comments. That's another

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:38

episode. Yeah. On I'm just going to throw this

Melissa Amos: 00:26:42

all through AI and send you a bunch of AI emails because you can feel

Melissa Amos: 00:26:45

it. But it has so

Melissa Amos: 00:26:49

much benefit that we can use. But I'm all for.

Melissa Amos: 00:26:53

I'm still in my human to human era. Yeah. A

Melissa Amos: 00:26:57

long way. That continue. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And I think

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:01

we should treat AI as we would

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:04

a human conversation as well. Because I think if we just rely on and expecting

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:08

AI to give us the answers without allowing them to question our thoughts

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:12

or why do we want to come to a conclusion or

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:15

then I think we're missing a little bit of a trick when we're just reliant.

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:19

Reliant on AI for this. Yeah. It makes our brains lazy and our

Melissa Amos: 00:27:23

brains need exercising just like our

Melissa Amos: 00:27:27

bodies. Absolutely. I've loved our

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:31

conversation of tech and thoughts.

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:35

Silence and black and white. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:27:39

Amazing. I think next episode will

Melissa Amos: 00:27:42

get the book. The book of questions. I

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:46

shall summon down Summon

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:49

from the tomorrow from the highs of the wardrobe. We'll

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:53

see you soon or next week. Bye.