The Power of Routine and Consistency

Melissa Amos: 00:00:00

Good morning, Mel. Good morning, Beth. How are we today?

Melissa Amos: 00:00:03

I'm good. Don't know what the weather's like where you are, but it feels very

Beth Hewitt: 00:00:07

still today outside. It's. Yeah,

Melissa Amos: 00:00:10

warm ish. Yeah, I think it might get warm later

Beth Hewitt: 00:00:14

today. Yes. So we've just had school

Melissa Amos: 00:00:17

holidays this week, and so it was

Melissa Amos: 00:00:21

nice for me this morning, it wasn't so nice getting up, but it was nice

Melissa Amos: 00:00:24

for me this morning to come. When I take the kids to school and I

Melissa Amos: 00:00:27

walk, and then I take a little bit of a longer walk.

Melissa Amos: 00:00:30

And I don't know if you find this, Beth, but like, when you're walking and

Melissa Amos: 00:00:34

there's nothing else to do and there's no phone, there's nothing you're listening to,

Melissa Amos: 00:00:38

it's like where things start to get clearer

Melissa Amos: 00:00:41

in your mind. And so it was just nice to get back

Melissa Amos: 00:00:45

to this. And then I came home

Melissa Amos: 00:00:49

and I've started a breath work practice. And so now

Melissa Amos: 00:00:53

my mission is, after anything we do, is to keep it up.

Melissa Amos: 00:00:57

So that's my, that's been my hour and a half or so of my morning.

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:01

Do you find having a routine is helpful? I

Melissa Amos: 00:01:04

resist routines. Yeah, me too. But I also see,

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:08

I also find the benefit of them as well. Like whenever I'm consistent and I

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:11

keep something up, like doing the podcast, like, well, we've got a dedicated time every

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:14

single week and we do it. There's benefits to having that consistency. But I

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:18

also resist habit. And because

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:22

I like to be in the flow, I like to be open and

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:25

available too, but we can have a mixture of both. And I think it's finding

Beth Hewitt: 00:01:29

that. Yeah, and it's interesting, especially as a

Melissa Amos: 00:01:33

business owner, I've always really resisted structure, and I

Melissa Amos: 00:01:37

think that part of that is because of my working life and

Melissa Amos: 00:01:41

being told where I had to be and what I had to do all of

Melissa Amos: 00:01:44

the time. And then having kids, but three kids, and when you have

Melissa Amos: 00:01:48

a baby, routines all just go flying out of everything.

Melissa Amos: 00:01:51

And so I resist structure. But what

Melissa Amos: 00:01:55

I found interesting is both in my human

Melissa Amos: 00:01:58

design, which I don't know that much about, I understand bits of

Melissa Amos: 00:02:02

it, and my astrology, which also, despite

Melissa Amos: 00:02:06

the thousands of readings I've had, I'm still like, I don't know.

Melissa Amos: 00:02:10

But in both of these, it talks about how I

Melissa Amos: 00:02:13

flourish in structure. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:02:16

And I get it. I resist it. And this is,

Melissa Amos: 00:02:20

it's like a self sabotaging behavior. It's to do some

Melissa Amos: 00:02:23

amazing things. If you just had a bit of structure and then this like, child

Melissa Amos: 00:02:27

means no, you will not even I will tell me

Melissa Amos: 00:02:31

what to do. It's interesting because I also find it

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:34

hard to have structure. So at the minute, I'm trying to

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:38

get up earlier and do, like,

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:41

marketing in the morning, like at the beginning of the day, and I'm just like,

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:45

okay, so between six and seven or seven and eight is

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:49

going to be my time to do this. And I'm just resisting

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:52

it. Like, I know that it's good for me, but I'm also like,

Beth Hewitt: 00:02:56

nope, I don't know. It's a funny

Beth Hewitt: 00:03:00

old one. But I do know that when I do it, that I reap the

Beth Hewitt: 00:03:03

benefits of it. So I think it's a very similar thing. And I can see

Beth Hewitt: 00:03:06

that structure is good for me, but also, it just

Beth Hewitt: 00:03:09

doesn't. Just not the natural order of things for me to do

Beth Hewitt: 00:03:13

that. No. And so this weekend,

Melissa Amos: 00:03:17

I was at a, I don't know what you'd call it, but there was a

Melissa Amos: 00:03:20

lot of breath work going on. And

Melissa Amos: 00:03:24

actually, that was the point is that we've been

Melissa Amos: 00:03:27

given this incredible series of

Melissa Amos: 00:03:31

breath and mantra and affirmation and

Melissa Amos: 00:03:35

brainwave things and all the things and the

Melissa Amos: 00:03:39

experience that I had this weekend and the

Melissa Amos: 00:03:42

understandings that I had about that I have about the energy

Melissa Amos: 00:03:45

body and the electromagnetic field and the brain

Melissa Amos: 00:03:49

and law of attraction and the universe works and our

Melissa Amos: 00:03:53

purpose and all of these things. It's okay. This seems to

Melissa Amos: 00:03:57

be a key, one of the

Melissa Amos: 00:04:00

keys or one of the numbers in the code, if you like, to

Melissa Amos: 00:04:04

assist in all of that, because breath work

Melissa Amos: 00:04:08

can clear physiologically, it can

Melissa Amos: 00:04:12

clear energetically, we're connecting to our chakras,

Melissa Amos: 00:04:15

we're working with the different energy centers and how we

Melissa Amos: 00:04:19

respond to that, as well as this creating

Melissa Amos: 00:04:22

this routine, which I think sends a big

Melissa Amos: 00:04:26

signal out into the universe to go. Obviously, she finds this very

Melissa Amos: 00:04:29

important, because if breath work, and if you've ever done it, it's not

Melissa Amos: 00:04:33

comfortable, it's not that pleasant. Until it

Melissa Amos: 00:04:36

is, there's pleasant bits. And so I, and then

Melissa Amos: 00:04:40

I came away from there. Yes, I'm going to do it.

Melissa Amos: 00:04:44

And, no, I'm not. And so yesterday I

Melissa Amos: 00:04:47

didn't, and today I

Melissa Amos: 00:04:51

was like, I went for my walk, and I'm like, oh, and I've got, now

Melissa Amos: 00:04:54

I've got this thing with you, and am I going to have time to do

Melissa Amos: 00:04:57

it? And actually, I sat here before you came

Melissa Amos: 00:05:00

on, and you were just the right amount of late. Yeah, I

Melissa Amos: 00:05:04

actually, like, the universe was like, here we go, Melissa. And it was ten

Melissa Amos: 00:05:07

minutes. Here we go, Mel, you weren't ten minutes late. But it was. I had

Melissa Amos: 00:05:11

ten minutes. Yeah, I'm going to open this space for you, and what are you

Melissa Amos: 00:05:15

going to do with it? And I could have

Melissa Amos: 00:05:19

responded to all the messages that are on my phone. I could

Melissa Amos: 00:05:23

have written an email, but no, I did. And

Melissa Amos: 00:05:26

now I'm like, well done, Mel. Well done, Mel.

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:30

It's really strange because as I was being late, so I'd got everything set

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:34

up, and then I realized that I didn't have my headphones and that my headphones

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:37

were in the car and my house and my drive is quite a walk away.

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:40

It's like a separate bit of land. And so as I'm walking down the side

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:44

of the house to the car, I'm thinking, oh, I'm late. Mel's going to be

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:47

like, upset that I'm late. And then I was like, no, everything has its divine

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:50

time, and I will appear when I

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:54

appear. I tried to be late alarm, but I was

Beth Hewitt: 00:05:58

like, okay. It was like literally three minutes, wasn't it? And then I came back

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:01

up and I thought, oh, she's not even here. When I turn the computer, she's

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:04

not here. Where is she? And then you're like, 2 seconds later, you popped up.

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:07

So divine timing. Yeah, it was

Melissa Amos: 00:06:11

perfect. And I don't get upset with people being like, I think time is

Melissa Amos: 00:06:15

fine, and these things. I look like Bart Simpson. I've just put my head in

Melissa Amos: 00:06:18

the bun and it's like, not like Bart Simpson.

Melissa Amos: 00:06:23

Yeah. I think it's interesting what we do and

Melissa Amos: 00:06:26

how we move through the world. And I think even when you know what you

Melissa Amos: 00:06:30

know, we still go back into habits, like

Melissa Amos: 00:06:34

creating habits. Isn't that one of the hardest

Melissa Amos: 00:06:38

things? Yeah. Why is that? It's a funny old thing. Is it? And

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:41

it's probably one of the things that we do most of,

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:45

if you think about in terms of habits that imprinted on it. We go to

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:49

school, we've got an assembly at the same time, we take the register at the

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:52

same time, we get to school at the same time, the bells go off at

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:54

the same time. So it's not like it's a concept that's alien

Beth Hewitt: 00:06:58

to us, where we go all of a sudden, we've got to make our own

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:00

routines. But yet we still. Maybe that's part

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:04

of it. Maybe that routine that is,

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:08

was forced upon us, is that start of that. I

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:11

actually want to be creative and I want to do things my own way. It

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:15

would be chaos, right? If we all just rocked up, if teachers, like, were just

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:18

like, randomly waiting for all the kids to turn up at random times between eight

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:21

and 09:00 but I wonder if that's part of the

Beth Hewitt: 00:07:25

puzzle. I think also, as you're saying this, it's

Melissa Amos: 00:07:29

this, we as children, we don't really have the

Melissa Amos: 00:07:32

opportunity to create our own routines. Yeah.

Melissa Amos: 00:07:36

You get up. I had this conversation with my kids. They're like, oh, I don't

Melissa Amos: 00:07:39

want it. We were up late watching Britain's Got Talent last night, and

Melissa Amos: 00:07:43

they would then go to bed till 10:30 and they're only little and they were

Melissa Amos: 00:07:47

tired and they've been off. And it's, no, we need to go. I don't want

Melissa Amos: 00:07:50

to go yet. We need to go. And so these, they're imposed.

Melissa Amos: 00:07:54

And so I don't remember having an opportunity to build my own

Melissa Amos: 00:07:58

routine as a child. And then you go into work life. Then I remember

Melissa Amos: 00:08:02

going into uni and we were at uni, what, 15 hours a

Melissa Amos: 00:08:06

week or something. And then it's, you need to manage your own time to

Melissa Amos: 00:08:10

make sure you get your homework done. And what did I do? I bet you

Melissa Amos: 00:08:13

were the same 2 hours before the

Melissa Amos: 00:08:17

course was meant to be handed. Oh, my

Melissa Amos: 00:08:20

God. I need to do it because I didn't have the skills, I don't

Melissa Amos: 00:08:24

think, to set my own routine. And then you go into

Melissa Amos: 00:08:27

work and depending on what it is that you do, but if you're in an

Melissa Amos: 00:08:31

office again, it's you come in at this time and you leave at this time

Melissa Amos: 00:08:34

and the morning meetings at this time and whatever,

Melissa Amos: 00:08:38

and I'm not sure we're given the skills.

Melissa Amos: 00:08:42

And so we end up defaulting to habits that are either

Melissa Amos: 00:08:45

deeply ingrained in us or

Melissa Amos: 00:08:49

comforting to us or self soothing to us,

Melissa Amos: 00:08:53

or they seem to be the path of least resistance. Or it's like we

Melissa Amos: 00:08:56

default back to what we know, but when we create, like you

Melissa Amos: 00:09:00

do, the 30 day gratitude, you

Melissa Amos: 00:09:04

begin to foster a habit. Yeah. And then the

Melissa Amos: 00:09:08

real thing comes when we leave the container or

Melissa Amos: 00:09:11

the place, and it's now you're on your own. Now what do I

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:15

do? Yeah. And I think that's why it's important to have

Melissa Amos: 00:09:19

community around you, maybe to have an accountability

Melissa Amos: 00:09:23

buddy or somebody who's doing

Melissa Amos: 00:09:27

the same thing. Like, I set up a WhatsApp group with the people that were

Melissa Amos: 00:09:30

there this weekend so that we could. I'm going to go in there and

Melissa Amos: 00:09:34

be like I did my birth web practice because maybe it will motivate them

Melissa Amos: 00:09:38

to do it as well and we can celebrate each other. I think

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:41

it's finding the right balance, isn't it, around all of this around

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:45

having structure and also having space to

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:49

play and be creative. And it's the same with, like, accountability as well. It's that

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:53

right level of, we don't want to be the person who's come on, everybody.

Beth Hewitt: 00:09:57

We all need to do this together because everybody's on their own timeline. Everybody's going

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:00

to be ready to do something when they're ready. And it's that balance of being,

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:03

I'm here to support this, what we're trying

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:07

to create. And I think that's the beautiful thing. When we create the space

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:10

to allow things to naturally unfold, it's almost having the

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:14

group vision around, okay, this is what we're trying to achieve. And we know these

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:18

are the steps that are going to allow us to do this. But within this

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:21

space, let's have the ability to be

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:25

creative and just see what comes up and through and all of that. So it's

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:28

a really interesting topic, and I think it

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:32

sounds like there's only us two here, but I think all humans

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:35

experience this on some level. And I think it depends on how much

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:39

you like something. If you like routine and structure or what you're doing is,

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:43

like, really lights you up, then that's going to be easy, isn't it? But when

Beth Hewitt: 00:10:46

it becomes. When it's something. I

Melissa Amos: 00:10:50

don't even know if that's true either. Something that's easy.

Melissa Amos: 00:10:54

So, like, to have a coffee in the morning, that's easier. I press a button,

Melissa Amos: 00:10:57

I sit there and enjoy. I don't have to do very much, like, yoga. Like,

Melissa Amos: 00:11:00

I suppose for me, yoga was one of those things. Like, I never could imagine

Melissa Amos: 00:11:04

that I would have such a strong practice

Melissa Amos: 00:11:08

even five years ago. Like, it just wasn't in my thing.

Melissa Amos: 00:11:12

And there's times when I'm there

Melissa Amos: 00:11:16

and I'm like, what am I doing? This is horrible.

Melissa Amos: 00:11:20

I find myself every day booking on so that I have to

Melissa Amos: 00:11:24

book on three days later. Like, I find myself every day booking on.

Melissa Amos: 00:11:28

And I literally revolve my life around

Melissa Amos: 00:11:31

this yoga practice that

Melissa Amos: 00:11:35

is at the gym at this certain time now when I can't

Melissa Amos: 00:11:39

get to the gym. And I have 10,000

Melissa Amos: 00:11:42

videos thanks to YouTube, with some incredible

Melissa Amos: 00:11:45

teachers, and I have recordings that I've done with other

Melissa Amos: 00:11:49

sessions, especially in my memberships and things.

Melissa Amos: 00:11:53

Do I do them? No, because then the day just flitters away. So having

Melissa Amos: 00:11:57

that anchor point has helped me.

Melissa Amos: 00:12:00

I think I digressed a bit. But, like, having that anchor point really

Melissa Amos: 00:12:04

anchors me into, I'm going to carry on. There's something like

Melissa Amos: 00:12:08

this breath work that I know with every cell

Melissa Amos: 00:12:12

of my being that this is good for me. And the feeling that

Melissa Amos: 00:12:15

I feel at the end of the breath work is

Melissa Amos: 00:12:19

like nothing else yet.

Melissa Amos: 00:12:24

I'm envisaging into the weeks and months and I'm,

Melissa Amos: 00:12:27

like, not sure I'm going to keep it up. Yeah. What is that about?

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:32

I wonder. And they talk a lot about, don't they? 30 days

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:36

to create a habit or something. But I wonder if there is like a sweet

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:39

spot or if it's different for everybody, where it starts to become part

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:43

of the routine and the anchor, whether we have to do it so many

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:46

times before we get to that point or if it's a.

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:51

A belief that we. Something in the mind

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:54

has to change for it to anchor into

Beth Hewitt: 00:12:58

place. Maybe it's an identity thing. Maybe I have that

Melissa Amos: 00:13:02

identity because I had an identity

Melissa Amos: 00:13:05

that I didn't really. I'm not a gym bunny and all of

Melissa Amos: 00:13:09

this. And then something happened at some point as I

Melissa Amos: 00:13:13

was going to yoga, and I put a lot of it down

Melissa Amos: 00:13:16

to my teacher, one of my teachers who

Melissa Amos: 00:13:20

is very. She loves yoga.

Melissa Amos: 00:13:24

She's not like an Instagram yogi.

Melissa Amos: 00:13:28

She's just incredible. And I think something being in there

Melissa Amos: 00:13:32

that I started to take on this identity as a yogi,

Melissa Amos: 00:13:36

I'm like, this is what I do. And it suddenly

Melissa Amos: 00:13:40

landed in, this is what I do. Yeah. So now it's

Melissa Amos: 00:13:43

like one of those non negotiables. There's days where I don't go

Melissa Amos: 00:13:47

because life, it's a priority. And

Melissa Amos: 00:13:51

so maybe for me right now, I'm not in the identity of.

Melissa Amos: 00:13:55

I'm a breath work. I don't know what you'd call it. I'm a

Melissa Amos: 00:13:58

breather. That maybe that's it. Maybe we.

Melissa Amos: 00:14:02

It's that point where it turns from something that

Melissa Amos: 00:14:05

I do into something that I. Not that I am, but

Melissa Amos: 00:14:09

something that I identify with. Yeah, maybe that's

Melissa Amos: 00:14:13

the. I think you may be onto something there

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:16

because it is identity of who were becoming.

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:20

We talk about. It's a lot of the reason why we don't do something is

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:24

because maybe somebody said something in the past, or you're not good at math, so

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:28

therefore we're not good with our accounts. Whatever. I think it does come back

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:31

to identity. Who's to say we're not gym bunnies? Who's to

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:35

say that we're not amazing breathworkers? Who's to say

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:39

we're not early birds? I think the whole early bird,

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:43

night owl debate is, where does that come from?

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:47

Because I know that I've always identified as a night owl, but I also

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:51

know that if I get up really early, I can be super productive. So

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:54

is it that I'm both? It's just that I have identified as being a night

Beth Hewitt: 00:14:58

owl. And it's interesting to say this because I was

Melissa Amos: 00:15:02

reading something a little while ago, so I'll be paraphrasing terribly,

Melissa Amos: 00:15:05

but, yeah, there's been experiments where they've basically

Melissa Amos: 00:15:09

taken people in the west who identify either as early birds

Melissa Amos: 00:15:13

or night owls, basically taken them out of society and

Melissa Amos: 00:15:17

put in the middle of a desert or something and gone back to this

Melissa Amos: 00:15:20

nomadic lifestyle. So, yeah, fire, and you're

Melissa Amos: 00:15:23

eating fire and there's no phones and there's no blue

Melissa Amos: 00:15:27

light, there's no electricity. You're just in there for a week, like,

Melissa Amos: 00:15:31

not even very much time. And they found that in

Melissa Amos: 00:15:35

that time, and you'd have to look up the thing because I'm paraphrasing, and it

Melissa Amos: 00:15:38

was a while ago, but in that time, they found that people would

Melissa Amos: 00:15:42

naturally fall asleep an hour after sunset. And the

Melissa Amos: 00:15:45

rhythms and the circadian rhythms just picked in really

Melissa Amos: 00:15:49

quickly as we just completely

Melissa Amos: 00:15:53

detoxed from any outside

Melissa Amos: 00:15:57

light, especially light influence. I think it also had to do with the food

Melissa Amos: 00:16:00

and when they ate. But when there's nothing else

Melissa Amos: 00:16:04

to do, apparently we will all default. Our natural

Melissa Amos: 00:16:08

rhythm will default back into moving with

Melissa Amos: 00:16:12

the sun. Yeah, I can totally feel that. It's like now, isn't

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:16

it? But I think we've got. Because we've got curtains drawn and the blinds drawn

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:19

and we're in a dark room, then we do. We're just not aware of what's

Beth Hewitt: 00:16:23

going on outside. When I was away, I don't want to miss anything.

Melissa Amos: 00:16:26

And so I sleep buttons open this this year,

Melissa Amos: 00:16:30

I've been away quite a lot for different reasons, and

Melissa Amos: 00:16:34

I have the curtains open. And when I was on a business retreat,

Melissa Amos: 00:16:38

I was up at 06:00 a.m. like, I am never up at 06:00 a.m. but

Melissa Amos: 00:16:41

I was up, like, up

Melissa Amos: 00:16:45

and getting in the shower and then going out for a walk and getting myself

Melissa Amos: 00:16:48

ready at 06:00 a.m. and I'm like, who am I?

Melissa Amos: 00:16:53

And I wasn't too tired. And then, and I'm saying to my

Melissa Amos: 00:16:56

husband, I'm up at six, he's, who are you, woman? Like, are you going to

Melissa Amos: 00:17:00

come home and come? And I'm like, no. And then I came home, then I'm

Melissa Amos: 00:17:04

like, oh, stay in bed. And I did. And then a month later, I

Melissa Amos: 00:17:07

went away again and I had the curtains open. And the time, it was 2

Melissa Amos: 00:17:11

hours later, but I was up at UK

Melissa Amos: 00:17:15

time, 06:00 a.m. yeah, every day or even

Melissa Amos: 00:17:18

before 545. And I'm like, who are you,

Melissa Amos: 00:17:22

woman? And then I come home and then I'm back in. I just want to

Melissa Amos: 00:17:26

stay in bed and I've got more to do at home than I have when

Melissa Amos: 00:17:30

I'm there. Yeah. And so

Melissa Amos: 00:17:34

what's that about? And then I was listening a couple of weeks

Melissa Amos: 00:17:38

ago to a webinar thing

Melissa Amos: 00:17:42

with Robin Sharma. Yeah, he's the 05:00 a.m. club guy. And

Melissa Amos: 00:17:45

I play. He's talking about getting up at 04:00 a.m. and I'm like, who are

Melissa Amos: 00:17:49

you? But the way he was talking about it, I'm like, I get it.

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He spends an hour doing his visioning and his prayers, all of this.

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And then an hour going for a walk in the forest. And then

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he works from eight till one. He has a nap. And then, oh, he

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has a nap. That's a bonus in the middle of the day. And then I

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think that's what he said. That's what I heard.

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I think I really. And then I think he said he goes to

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bed at like between nine and ten. And

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I was like, that actually, that sounds really lovely.

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And I wonder, I always think that when my kids are no longer

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children and I'm not responsible to help them

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forge their routines. Like, I'll probably be in bed, I won't wake up

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till ten, I'll have nothing to do till eleven. Like, that's my dream. But I

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think maybe I'm gonna be up 06:00 a.m.

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gonna be in bed by nine. I do think. Because on the times

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:45

where I have got up at 06:00 a.m. in the morning, I'm less tired.

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I think sometimes we get, and I don't know anything about the cycles of sleep,

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:53

but I know that we go through different stages of sleep and I think sometimes

Beth Hewitt: 00:18:56

we're awake about 06:00 we might look at us watching at 06:00 and we're like.

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But we're actually alert and awake. And I think if you actually got up at

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that point, that might be a good thing. But what we do is we go

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:05

into a sleep again and then we go back into cycle and then we wake

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:09

up at 09:00 super tired or whenever we wake up. So I

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think that there's definitely something in that. And

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:16

I'd love to be. I would actually like to be in the 06:00 a.m. club.

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Maybe not the 04:00 a.m. club. That sounds a little bit too

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:22

perverse for me, but it would be quite nice to get up at 06:00 a.m.

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every day. I think I'm the same. Yeah, I got a friend in the

Melissa Amos: 00:19:30

states, and I was talking to her, and then the other

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day, and I worked out what the time was there, and

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I'm like, why are you upset? And the whole house was, like, awake,

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and they were popping around, and I'm like, in our house at that time?

Melissa Amos: 00:19:45

No, it's. There's exciting, there's nothing going

Beth Hewitt: 00:19:48

on. But then at night, I slept in my kids room the other

Melissa Amos: 00:19:52

night because my husband wasn't feeling well. At

Melissa Amos: 00:19:55

555, the alarm went off, and I'm like,

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I turned it off before anyone woke up. But I'm like, what are you

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doing? Like, why? But actually,

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that's probably quite healthy. They

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like to go to bed late, but maybe if they got up early, they'd go

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to bed earlier. Like, I don't know. I also noticed, because I'm trying

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out having one of the watches

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which detects your sleep. And I have noticed the earlier

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I go to bed, it doesn't actually matter how many hours sleep I have, but

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the earlier I go to bed, the more deep sleep I get. Yeah.

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Which I actually. I need to look into it more,

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but I always think I sleep really well. Like, I

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put my head on the pillow, fall asleep. Yeah. Turns

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out I have a lot of REm sleep, not a lot of

Melissa Amos: 00:20:47

deep sleep. Deep, deep sleep. Yeah. Interesting.

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:51

I feel we need, like, a sleep specialist to let us

Beth Hewitt: 00:20:55

know what's going. On, get in touch with us, because we'd like to talk to

Melissa Amos: 00:20:58

you about our sleep pattern. So what

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we've discovered is we feel better if we wake up at 06:00 a.m.

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sleep better if we go to bed early. It's our natural rhythm. We don't

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like to be structured yet. We push through our body

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to go to bed late and get up late, which is not unnatural with

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them. Why do we do it? I don't know. I'm

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:20

feeling like we need to do some identity work. Like, just create a whole new

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:23

identity and script and write out that this is,

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:28

I am an early bird. I do get up at 06:00 a.m. i do enjoy.

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:31

I enjoy and reap the rewards of getting up at 06:00 a.m. and I'm so

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:34

productive and my day just flows. I feel like I need to do that

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:38

kind of work instead of I'm a night owl. I like my

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:42

bed thinking like all. The resistance as you say that.

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:46

Yeah, I know, it's like crazy, isn't it? But we actually want to do it.

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:49

That's the annoying thing. I tell you what's going on. You do? I think. I

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:52

think you do. I think you do. I think you're like me. I think you

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:55

do. I think you're just denying yourself of this amazing time in

Beth Hewitt: 00:21:58

the morning because. Actually, when was it? I don't know. There was a

Melissa Amos: 00:22:02

day whenever it was and last

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week and I just had stuff I was launching last week

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and I was like, when we were going out all day, so I was

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like, I need to write these emails. So I got up early, down like wrote

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like loads of emails because no one's up, so there's no distraction.

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And I wrote loads and then I was like, oh

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no. And then the day came and it was fine and I wasn't knackered

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and whatever. But yeah, I think we're on to

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something. I think that this is our

Melissa Amos: 00:22:34

identity and it's been something for, I think

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for both of us. Identity's been coming up quite a lot

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and maybe we'll talk about this on the next episode.

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I've been working a lot this last couple of weeks with business owners,

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healers, mentors,

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gogies, you know, all the, all, they're amazing.

Melissa Amos: 00:22:57

And I asked that question to somebody and I

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said, do you see yourself as a business owner?

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And she said, no. Interesting. It is

Melissa Amos: 00:23:08

interesting. And I asked this question really

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also for my research because I'm promoting,

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course and I'm targeting business owners,

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but those words aren't reaching the people that

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I can help because they're not understanding that

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they're business owners. And I think that as we land into that, like, I've

Melissa Amos: 00:23:30

seen this with me, that as I landed into that

Melissa Amos: 00:23:34

identity of I run a business, then my business became a

Melissa Amos: 00:23:37

business rather than a monetized hobby. It was really that

Melissa Amos: 00:23:42

this is what I do. Yeah, yeah. I think

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:45

it comes back to all of the things, all the labels that we've

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:49

had and all the past experiences and all the conversations we've had in the

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:53

past. And it's a lot of work, isn't it, to unpick and unfold

Beth Hewitt: 00:23:57

that and to, I know we talk a lot about knowing thyself

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as to use your words. And I think

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:04

it's part of all of that. But then when we start to strip back all

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:08

of these layers, is the person that we thought we was, who we

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:11

are, or who will become it. And we work

Melissa Amos: 00:24:15

at it at all levels, energetic. So that's what we were doing this

Melissa Amos: 00:24:19

weekend. It was really on this energetic,

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physiological level with the breath. And we

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work on it on a psychotherapeutic level,

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and we work at it on a conscious level. And there's not one key, I

Melissa Amos: 00:24:34

think it's a code to this, and then we do this. But we've got to

Melissa Amos: 00:24:37

keep on doing this work. It's not like we wake up

Melissa Amos: 00:24:41

one morning when I thought, I'm here, I am now. 06:00 a.m.

Melissa Amos: 00:24:45

multi millionaire. Like,

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it's happy and nurturing and

Melissa Amos: 00:24:52

like all the things, but maybe underneath that's what we

Melissa Amos: 00:24:56

are. Yeah,

Beth Hewitt: 00:24:59

we've just. Maybe that's our purpose, right? That we've got all of

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these identities. And in the holy fire language, they call

Melissa Amos: 00:25:06

it the. What do they call it? There's that. There's the

Melissa Amos: 00:25:10

dormant self and there's the authentic self.

Melissa Amos: 00:25:13

Like maybe it's just awakening

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those aspects of us so that the, what they call the culturally

Melissa Amos: 00:25:21

created self, which is what many

Melissa Amos: 00:25:24

of us, I think, identify as. Maybe it's as we

Melissa Amos: 00:25:28

begin to heal, not dismiss, not let

Melissa Amos: 00:25:32

go, not out the park. But as we heal

Melissa Amos: 00:25:36

that culturally created self and understand that,

Melissa Amos: 00:25:39

then we get closer and closer to this authentic

Melissa Amos: 00:25:43

part of us. It's not that when we're in the culturally creative

Melissa Amos: 00:25:47

self, we're not being authentic. We think we're authentic. But

Melissa Amos: 00:25:51

then there's these disparities that we don't understand.

Melissa Amos: 00:25:55

And I well, this is me. But then we keep coming

Melissa Amos: 00:25:59

back physiologically, energetically,

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spiritually, emotionally, mentally, all of the

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things. And then, who knows?

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:10

As you were saying, all of that. And I don't know why Madonna

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:14

seemed to jump in my head a number of times when we've had these podcast

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:17

interviews, but I look at Madonna, who is somebody who has changed

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:20

identity so many different times and made it look so

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:23

easy, and each time it's just.

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:27

I'm assuming she's authentically the same person,

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:31

but she's a different iteration of herself, but also is expressing herself in a slightly

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:35

different way each time. And so we look at somebody like my daughter, who has

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:38

gone through numerous

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:41

Personas. It's almost like that could become.

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:44

It could be an easy thing to do. We're here talking that maybe it's like

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:48

a deep rooted difficult. I think we have to go through that and we need

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:51

to understand who we are. But also, what if we also set that intention of,

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:55

actually, this is who I'm going to be today, and this is how I'm going

Beth Hewitt: 00:26:58

to express myself. And then all of a sudden. Because people reinvent

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:02

themselves all the time, don't they? And we reinvent ourselves all the time, whether we're

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:05

conscious about it or not, whether it's getting a new job or being in a

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:09

new relationship or getting a new. All of these things are expressions of some aspect

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:12

of our identity. So I think it's. I think it'd be interesting to explore

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:16

this more, and this. The merging of the energetics

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:20

and the healing, as well as the creative stuff that, like, I get

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:23

to choose what hat to wear today or what words to use. I think it's

Beth Hewitt: 00:27:27

a real merging of all of those things is.

Melissa Amos: 00:27:30

And it comes back to know thyself, because then we get scared, like,

Melissa Amos: 00:27:34

oh, I'm changed. I've. She. Oh, she's changed.

Melissa Amos: 00:27:38

Yes, she's changed. She's meant to change. And that can be scary,

Melissa Amos: 00:27:42

too. And we don't know. And then we. And then imposter syndrome, when all of

Melissa Amos: 00:27:45

these things come up, because we're like, oh, hold on a minute. I don't know

Melissa Amos: 00:27:48

myself as that, but maybe this new

Melissa Amos: 00:27:52

identity of ours is what we've been building up to. And then

Melissa Amos: 00:27:56

it comes into that allowance, and there's courage in there and. And

Melissa Amos: 00:27:59

to be difficult. It can be

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like, with my Yogi thing, it can literally be a moment where

Melissa Amos: 00:28:07

you're like, oh, you don't even know that it's

Melissa Amos: 00:28:11

happened. And then suddenly it's happened, and

Melissa Amos: 00:28:14

then it's okay now. That's just who I am. And I literally

Melissa Amos: 00:28:18

think it can happen in a moment. And I've seen it through, like, hypnotherapy,

Melissa Amos: 00:28:22

especially. I've even seen it through, like, tapping. I've always been scared

Melissa Amos: 00:28:26

of whatever, and then we do these interventions, then it's

Melissa Amos: 00:28:29

all, I'm okay.

Melissa Amos: 00:28:32

And it's. That's clean and that's simple.

Melissa Amos: 00:28:36

And so, yeah, I think we should discuss. We could

Melissa Amos: 00:28:40

discuss a little bit more about

Melissa Amos: 00:28:44

identity and. And some of the ways that we can

Melissa Amos: 00:28:48

foster that, because I've definitely got some thoughts around that.

Beth Hewitt: 00:28:52

We shall leave that for another day. We shall. We're going to bed early tonight,

Beth Hewitt: 00:28:55

and then I'll be getting up at 06:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. Now, should we record

Melissa Amos: 00:28:59

at 06:30 no. We'Ll be recording

Beth Hewitt: 00:29:02

tomorrow's episode, next week's episode tomorrow. So we will be able to tell you very

Beth Hewitt: 00:29:06

quickly whether we have achieved. 06:00 a.m. club. Hold your

Melissa Amos: 00:29:10

account. Thank you very much.